Reunion of the Descendants of Wolf and Franziska von Bibra

Thursday, July 27 through Saturday, July 29, 2006

Brennhausen, Germany with trips to Bibra, Irmelshausen and Waltershausen (?)

These Waltershausen pages are an appendix to the American Bibra Reunion which includes all descendants of Carl Ernst von Bibra and Caroline Sartorius von Waltershausen.

Held July 27, 28, and 29, 2006 at Wolf’s family home, Brennhausen, Germany.

View art by Wolf von Bibra
View Art by C. v. Bibra and M. v. Bibra
Read excerpts from The von Bibra Story

Franziska

Franziska Seraphine Penz de Dölitz

born Aspang Austria (just below Wiener-Neustadt) 1869. † 1934.

father Anton Penz de Dölitz and mother Caroline
(Genealogical Handbook has Anton Penz as father and Caroline de Dölitz as mother but “Penz de Dölitz” is a family name with the de Dölitz as a the second half of the name)
It is unclear if Anton Penz was step father or real father. Edith had the impression that Franziska’s real father was an aristocratic Hungarian officer and that her mother married a Penz. Conrad DNA casts doubt on Franziska’s real father being more than a fraction of native Hungarian.

Notes on Franciska homes in California

Franciska von Bibra in California

moved to California Jan 18, 1920, leaving Wolf in New Jersey

1920 Census – 1618 Avalons LA with Carl

On Jan. 25, 1925 her children

Carl lived in South Pasadena
Annie in Colorado
Marie Louise in Elmhurst 

Jan 17, 1923 4015 North Griffin Ave, Los Angeles down the street from where she lived another time (4521 Mosher behind house her grand daughter lived many decades later)

Jan 19, 1925 lived at 1736 Meridian Ave, So Pasadena
no such address today, probably 1732 which has “1734” on house see below
5319-033-001
Address:1732 MERIDIAN AVE SOUTH PASADENA CA 91030
Property Type:Single Family Residential
Region / Cluster:05 / 05145
Tax Rate Area (TRA):09030
View Assessor Map 2,913
Year Build / Effective Year Built:1924 / 1950
Bedrooms / Bathrooms4 / 3
Units1

    I am told Carl and Paul Barton  built a duplex at 1734-36 Meridian.

Lived at Mosher Ave in 1926, 1927 and 1931 per phone directory.

1932 - 1966 N. Edgemont with mother per directory

In believe Franseska lived with Malu when she died at 4521 Mosher Ave LA

1/26/34 death

Notes on Carl & Edith’s homes in California

Carl & Edith

After college Carl worked in Martinez CA at Shell Refinery 1920 census, married 1923

1920 Census – 1618 Avalons LA with Francesca

1922 – 4015 N. Griffen Ave

They built 722 Garfield South Pasadena in 1924, lived there at least in 1929, sold in early 30’s ?

1930 433 Via Almar, Lomita Township, Los Angeles County, CA for Census end of year
This appears to be 433 VIA ALMAR
Palos Verdes Estates, CA 90274 which was built in 1928

Germany 1931 ??

1932 – 1966 N. Edgemont with mother per directory

Belmont Shores, Long Beach, beach house on sandbar between Alameda Bay and Ocean March 10, 1933 earthquake, still there near Long Beach

1933 – 1744 Granvia La Costa, P.V per directory

1744 Palos Verdes Drive West, Palos Verdes Estates a couple miles south west from the Via Almar house (Conrad started preschool)

about 1935 moved to 248 S. Van Ness Ave at 3rd Street. (Conrad kindergarten & 1st grade at Third Street Grammar School) House was leased

ending in 1940 Los Angeles 1815 Benedict Canyon (rented)

1940 moved to 1225 Angelo